Thanks, hi oil still flowing when firebird is switched off and coming out nozzle,would the oil pump be faulty ? Faulty Pump. Riello 40 - Take red box off and your should see the Grey control box. 15 years old. The rads only get luke warm. Mine is approx. Thankyou for the quick reply. by Saloe » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:33 pm, Post That sounds like something I would worry about. Like to put it in side a small house by Saloe » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:26 pm, Post If you have serial number of boiler and details it will make it easier for them to order. My central heating oil boiler keeps cutting out. The system was drained when new radiators were fitted, with new pipe routing in some cases. Yeah, I've been getting to do plenty of this lately.A lot of people don't know how to do this when they first move out or in to a house with oil hea… Could also be a loose connection. The downstairs radiators are working fine, the problem is just with the upstair ones. Had a problem with water in tank fixed that New nozzle and burner now working fine But when put into boiler it’s miss firing I cleaned firebird out and burner started happy days. I think the only way is to turn the oil off disconnect it and shake it out, can't remember to be honest, perhaps a play with it and see if anything unscrews. The boiler and housing are in excellent condition for the age of the unit. Any ideas? Sometimes balanced flues can leak exhaust gases into the air intake when seals perish. As a result during the service, water (and one snail!) Oil Boiler keeps cutting out by gcjb » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:36 am Last post by htg engineer Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:04 pm Replies 1 Views 2951; Potterton PUMA 80 - pilot keeps cutting out when C.H. Thanks in advance Don't think it has tripped on the hi limit stat, the boiler only runs for a few minutes and then cuts out, the op was shown how to vent air from the boiler by opening its PRV, it might point to faulty pump or maybe a faulty stat even with a new boiler. i posted on here recently about the gas boiler cutting out because of low pressure in the system, anyway i topped the system uo with water and it has been fine.....however the wind in the last few days has been howling in the air outlet hose/flue and its now cutting out again and going in to safety mode which turns the gas/heating off Share this conversation. Nov 23, 2009 Thread Starter #2 Possibly the solenoid valve not opening. Share this conversation. Just not when inserted . why does my oil central heating boiler keep cutting out ? It was serviced a few months ago and worked fine up until this. no electrical supply to burner Check for 230 V at boiler terminal block. 2. It is behind a black knob long side your heat stat. I will be changing to a more efficient boiler later in year but have run out of oil. Your readings will change when you put the burner cover back on. I didn’t know you should only have a qualified individual help service your furnace because of how much knowledge and experience was needed. The photocell needed to be replaced also as part of the service. Without the door on it runs perfectly I also noticed the front of boiler is getting very hot even after changing gasket, Your email address will not be published. I am not convinced this is the way forward. Oil burner cutting out Oil Boiler not firing. Where would the leak be from. I have a Firebird Popular 90. My preference would be to drill it inside as you are covering the hole with tape. Answered in 1 hour by: 2/12/2013. Reply . I have a trianco eurotrader boiler, in a external boiler house. Plumber: Marc, Plumber replied 7 years ago. Check that air intake and fan are clear of debris. Many thanks Brian. You should get a plumber to have a look at your whole system and boiler. Show Less. What are the things to be considered in removing/transporting and reinstalling? I have tried bleeding it several times and pressing the red button many times ! If your boiler’s pump is faulty, then it can cause your boiler to switch off. There is sufficient fuel in the tank and I have tried the reset button to no avail. Ask Your Own UK Plumbing Question. Yes sorry, its the red light on the burner control box. Any advice/suggestions greatly appreciated. Thermo on rads up full. Restart boiler and that may do the job. The most likely explanation is that you either have a leak in your system or your feed tank water level is low. These screw into the port where you bleed air from the pump. Oil Boiler not firing 10:30 pm in Ballyfermot. Reply. If there's a good roar (flame established) then the photo resistor. I had left the covers off since the last lockout. Any advice gratefully received. its a ideal classic nf250 But I have a leak and I don’t know how to stop it. It finally blew yesterday. It was serviced a few months ago and worked fine up until this. why does my oil central heating boiler keep cutting out ? But this should only last for a short while. Comstock/Comstock/Getty Images . If the boiler was damp/wet there might be steam in the flue gases for a while until it all drys. technics100: Dec 14, 2004 3:24 PM: Posted in group: uk.d-i-y: Hi. I am converting to Natural Gas and would like to sell (or donate to a worthy cause) the Firebird . Thawing the pipes and then insulating, however, will prevent this from happening frequently. I wouldn't have the first clue as to how to do that, and the internet seems to be of no help whatsoever (apart from your good self). Keeps cutting out and coming up with F1? Trianco Boiler Cutting Out Constantly: technics100: 12/14/04 3:24 PM: Hi. I had to get a new pump last year and I asked the plumber, he said its nothing to worry about. The combustion analyser gives you combustion efficiency, not boiler efficiency. I got my boiler serviced by a professional a few weeks ago and I took pictures of each stage of the process. Any black soot in or around the boiler is a sign of incomplete combustion which produces carbon monoxide. The rads only get luke warm. Find out what the most common boiler problems are and how to fix them with our handy troubleshooting guide! The two pipes above the boiler are warm and the cylinder thermostat certainly trips the system on and off if rotated. Also can the Sunvic valves be replaced with a superior type without changing the base that’s inserted into the plumbing – to replace with more reliable units would be sensible I feel. Show More. There is a lot of equipment and knowledge required to carry out a complete service. My oil furnace has been acting up lately and I think I am going to have to find a service to come out and check it out. OP . the firebird popluar 90 in the house we bought is missing all the baffle plates. There are no leaks and the tank has a lock. Turns out we were just about out of oil and have since had the tank refilled. I have a popular Firebird 90 oil fired burner running on the old gas oil. Thanks Why is this? There is an oil filter on the oil line, not inside the boiler. The leak seems to be from the underside if this unit. Removing the steel plates above the fire box to allow cleaning. whats causing this to happen and whats the cure? Cheers, will do. You can then contact them to arrange the repair. Show only OP | 31 May 2015 at 14:51 #1. mrochester . Burner also needs to be stripped, cleaned and tested as soot in boiler is a symptom of problem with burner. Many thanks in advance. As Andrea asked, is there any oil filter or air filter to be replaced? I have firebird 90 ten years old gave it service as normal but I notice my radiators are only luke warm I have bleed system and rads Any other things it could be. Low water pressure is another common reason why a central heating boiler may cut out. Not blocking the air intake of course. Too much pressure in the boiler will cause the boiler’s automatic safety precautions to kick in and shut the boiler down. 'THE HELPFUL ENGINEER' FACEBOOK PAGE. Can you advise me what to check. The boiler will have a thermal cut out. You need to have burner cover in place to analyse the boiler correctly. Call for an Oil boiler not firing. What should I expect to pay ? The burner starts with ignition as normal. Hi I don’t want to get into this if there is a risk of damaging in the removal. if im correct this unit is at the right hand side of your burner and opens the air damper when the burner is turned on, Hi I have firebird 90 in outside shed, riello burner too, can you give me an idea as to the average kero consumption per hour for the boiler. I have a trianco eurotrader boiler, in a external boiler house. Have you any ideas what is causing this issue and any advice as to how to fix it. It keeps doin this for a good few times b4 it finally fires up. If your boiler’s pump is faulty, then it can cause your boiler to switch off. Therefore the water had to be removed first. Not enough air or too much fuel. I have bled the radiators and after waiting 10 - 15 mins fired the boiler again only for it to cut off. Strong smell of oil in the garage. by thescruff » Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:47 pm, Post This time I'm hoping someone can help solve the mystery as to why my boiler keeps cutting out. New warmflow oil condenser boiler keeps cutting out. I have servived my popular 90 and changed the gasket board on front panel but if I put the door back on it cuts in and out ! If it does then buy a new thermostat and count yourself enormously lucky that it was that simple and cheap. and whats the permanent solution to this occasional problem? How do you repalce this part. This is why it is exposed. Then a vacuum cleaner was used to clean out the lower firebox. Air in your radiators will shorten their life as corrosion will quicken. Ideas? ivor. Any advice/suggestions greatly appreciated. Eventually she fired up and was working fine for 5/6 hours ,now when I switch it on, the pump is working fine but the burner won’t ignite, have bleed it again and no joy. The boiler I inspected yesterday kept turning on and off like this. If your home is large, badly insulated, with a boiler with a larger nozzle this might explain most of the difference. The boiler fired up fine but only ran for a few minutes before cutting out and initially only heated the pipes upto to the upstairs cupboard where the flow and return pipes start to go off to the radiators. As there is a short time to run on the old boiler will it run on kerosene for a short time, do I need to increase the pump pressure and change the jet before it can be used for the last month. Generally, boiler pressure should be between 1 and 2 bar. I do not think it is air locked. Note that the insulation on the cover is in poor condition. Recently boiler cutting out after a short time and not heating thereafter. At the end of the box there is a small white square photocell. Show More. The hole drilled for testing the flue gas should be at least 150mm above the boiler spigot. This can trigger your boiler to cut out. Also get them to check why the boiler was wet in the first place and repair if necessary. I may, in the end, need to find a new furnace. Call 0800 080 7875. But in my case, as stated previously, water was lying in the bottom of the firebox. I have added these below. 3. Mark on 28th January 2017 at 8:24 pm Had boiler fault tonight and not even been fitted a year, checked other sources online and it was ignition lock out saying check other gas appliances .. All are fine? Always better to do smoke test prior to using analyzer, protects oxygen cell.I would test from not to distant out side, if access point not inside. Many thanks in advance. It works well sometimes, then it won't do anything and I'm getting a message of F4, have no idea what that means. When the boiler was turned on, the burner started to run and it started it’s ignition cycle and then ignited and then stopped after about 10 seconds. Any black soot in or around the boiler is a sign of incomplete combustion which produces carbon monoxide. Low water pressure. exactly what I needed. All pipework cold, so it hadn't fired at all. Servicing an oil boiler: Firebird popular range. Thanking you in advance. Is your home well insulated? When the boiler was turned on, the burner started to run and it started it’s ignition cycle and then ignited and then stopped after about 10 seconds. Worcester Heatslave Combi 15/19 boiler keeps cutting out? Thanks. Table A - boiler start and burner related fault finding table for all Grant Vortex oil fired boilers Fault Cause Action Boiler will not start Low pressure cut-out activate Refill system to 0.5 - 1.0 bar. Since then the boiler has continued to trip every once and a while. It’s a 4 bed detached but we have it on timer and it only runs 6h per day…. So I would get the service technician back to check it all out. Firebird enviromax 3yr old Serviced fail to stay on longer 20 seconds after service . Thanks for all your help. All above the burner and on the front cover. I have the same boiler type with deteriorating door insulation. FORUM RULES, Post Before you call the engineer, check out our top boiler problems and advice on how to troubleshoot them. Mark on 28th January 2017 at 8:24 pm Had boiler fault tonight and not even been fitted a year, checked other sources online and it was ignition lock out saying check other gas appliances .. All are fine? 2. Can you take a sample from the tank, it may be a contaminated delivery. The boiler fired up fine but only run for a few minutes before cutting out and initially only heated the pipes upto to the upstairs cupboard where the flow and return pipes start to go off to the radiators. Answered in 1 hour by: 2/12/2013. Discussion in 'Home and Garden' started by mrochester, 31 May 2015. Then the repair is kept out of sight, note the article gives a distance to drill the hole. It does this repeatedly. There is sufficient fuel in the tank and I have tried the reset button to no avail. The problems started when it went into lockout mode. However when the set time for the heatest is reached, the boiler starts and the heat comes on. Starting to remove the front panel of the boiler. My money would be the boiler and not the thermostat, but you could take the communication wires out of the thermostat and twist them together for awhile to see if your boiler stays on. Front cover opened up to access the firebox for cleaning. The pressure was 27 psi and the water temp was only 100 degrees. In some cases, there may be a more severe problem with will require replacement parts or even a boiler … if servicing a indoor boiler with a flue going through the wall to the outside,would you do your smoke pump test and probe throught a hole that you drill in the flue or would you take a reading from outside. hi, Written on: July 14, 2020. In other boilers this insulation is not exposed but is protected behind metal. Steve. Firebird outside oil boiler in its own galvanized box unit approx. He put in a new nozzle and fired up boiler and checked boiler efficiency by measuring flue gases. 15 years old. They may simply need to carry out a service which will include cleaning dirty filters, removing air locks and cleaning blocked nozzles. Pressure for a standard domestic boiler should be 8 bar. mind this site and provides it a look regularly. We have had the plumber back out several times but he cannot seem to find a problem. Cheers author for your helpful blog and outstanding article to Plumbing service. I had the oil pump, motor and photocell replaced approx one month ago after the boiler wouldn't work. Loosen screw on left side and pull the control box out - it slides out. My tank is about 1/3 full of oil! I have been able to re-start using the restart button but again it cuts out after a short while. He had a look, said it was fine and increased the oil pressure. Strong smell of oil in the garage. The debris were removed from the fire box below by hand. But how does an oil boiler work? Then the thermal cut detects its over heating and shuts the boiler down. It should take at least an hour to do properly. As a pump is used to move water around the central heating system, if it is not working properly, then hot water could just stay in the boiler rather than be moved around the system. I’ve cleaned the boiler and flu, checked that the magic eye is clean! My boiler does a similar thing. Thanks for the feedback, it's always handy. Boiler was locked out when I got up this morning. The pressure is too high. Call 0800 080 7875. by Saloe » Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:15 pm, Post Boiler was locked out when I got up this morning. Exploring in Yahoo I ultimately stumbled upon this site. When ever I have my boiler on the pipes bump and grind constantly until it trips its reset and cuts out .ive tried bleeding the radiators but nothing helps. If these steps don’t solve the issue and your boiler keeps cutting out, you may need to contact a professional heating engineer to diagnose and fix the problem. Oil burner cutting out Oil Boiler not firing. weblog posts in this sort of space . when i turn my heating on it comes on for about 45 mins then cuts out and smoke comes from the bolier the reset light comes on the boiler and if you press it it fires up again and restarts but keeps cutting out. Take it out and clean the end of it and repalce. How to Restart Your Boiler After Running Out of Oil. Is this all thats required to service a boiler or is there oil / air filters to clean? hi the radiators in my house have had some air in them recently and i bled them but once i did that my burner stop working now i dont know whats wrong was that my fault or was that just coincidence help the red reset button isnt even coming on an the burner isnt even tryin to do anything, Reset your overheat stat. Now is spending more than 3 per hour. I’ve been exploring for a little for any high quality articles or Today I had a service engineer have a look but he could not exactly find the problem. by thescruff » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:36 pm, Post it’s dated at about 20years old, can we get a welder to make new plates? 30-45 minutes. It is coming from the brass coloured cylander which has the copper chord attached to it. Best of luck with it. Is it normal for a boiler system to run for 3-5 minutes or so and then shut off for a minute or two and start back up again? by probwetnexmate » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:44 pm, Post Will any similar unit work, or do I have to get the exact same part. Trianco Boiler Cutting Out Constantly. Lock-out can be re-set after a min or so, and then it goes through the cycle as above all over again. Did he clean the electrodes etc? I remember before the service, flue gas weren’t that strong, now it has a much stronger oil burning smell?? 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